ansinoa:

Give me a videogame with an option for skimpy bikini armor on both genders but if you wear it your character dies really easily so you have to be really skilled at the game in order to play with said armor

filipfatalattractionrblog proposed something similar once, with skimpy armor making you more vulnerable, but gaining you stamina-based accomplishments.

I really wanna see such mechanic employed in a big name mainstream game.

~Ozzie

In before people start citing a bunch of RPG-type games where you can remove your gear: It’s not the same as having actual gear that showcases the absurd extra danger of bikini armor within the mechanics.  Even if it diminishes general stats.

It’s just not the same for really highlighting how exposed that gear would make you, and gives you suitable feedback for overcoming it.

– wincenworks

aerynlallaboso:

bhunivelzes replied to your link “Steam Curator: GamerGate Recommends”

“The artists from the game were heavily harassed because of the female armor in the game and were forced into self-censoring.” …self-censoring…

thats the kind of language these people use. …. .

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Wow, no kidding!

It appears that GamerGate made Thierry “Save the Boobplate” Van Gyseghem into a martyr for their ‘noble’ cause.

If that’s not hilarious, then what is?

~Ozzie

Professional artist expected to do his job… oh the humanity!

– wincenworks

“Hey I wonder what’s happening on the Bioware forums!”

ellorgast:

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Can’t believe I happened to have such perfect reaction pic to this.

Also: hey, just another evidence that people who refer to women as “females” are misogynist douchebags who lost contact with reality and their opinions should be ignored.
Long-time BABD followers would remember that I am definitely not okay with using “female” as a noun in reference to a person.

~Ozzie

Oh noes! A world with lots of capable and important women with all kinds of personalities, and their outfits express those personalities and even the male gazey outfit was toned down!

coles-silly-hat:    sketchys:    Best quote from Dragon Age: Inquisition.    *whips tears* that’s so deep and wise      It’s why she was my choice for the top job.

How could Andraste allow such a thing?

– wincenworks

What if I just think Final Fantasy has bad costume design in general, regardless of sex? Or damn near any Square game? Is it okay to think that?

Seems to me it’s okay to think that, especially since we very much agree that FF has LOTS of horrendous female costumes to offer as well.
But it’s not so fine if you only voice that opinion with the male characters.
It’s really suspicious how people get vocal with “I don’t like it because of bad design” only when a dude is shown in skimpy armor, even though there are plenty more ridiculous female costumes to pick apart.

In the context of sexualized male armor, how much comparison do we actually have? Almost none.

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How does male sexualization go “right”, then? There’s barely any standard to hold on to. So much so, that many people think that skimpiness itself is inherently feminine.

I have said already (and still stand by it), we’ve seen so many ugly-as-hell female armors in mainstream games that I do not mind if the first prominent sexy male armor in a while gets to be badly designed. We need to catch up on all kinds of skimpy male armor, “good” and “bad” alike, anyway.

Also, personally I really don’t find it bad in FF standards. The franchise always liked their costumes ridiculously over the top and silly, so this thing is actually not that unusual for them.
Part of the joke of our post was the fact how epicly the dudebros overreacted to a design that was just natural progression from how older Final Fantasy bishounen looked.

mahoukokorohime submitted, in response to the Fran bingo:  Not that it makes it acceptable, but Vaan from the same game also had some armor deficiencies. Also, that game gave us Judge Drace, who has some of the most comprehensive armor ever seen, let alone of a female character.   So remember how some people try to claim that sexy armor is just a thing we have to live with because of the mythical “Asian culture" ?  And franchises are only capable of targeting one demographic so must oversell to it? Final Fantasy XII, from a franchise with no shortage of underclad female characters, provided both bare chested pretty boys and a woman in an amazingly badass suit of armor.   Though personally I think if Fran had been issued or stolen Vaan’s pants, that would have been a remarkable step forward in progress. - wincenworks

Anyway, to answer what you were actually trying to pursue with that question: everyone’s perfectly entitled to personally find that character (if not all FF visuals) bad design-wise, but it would be advised if they kept that opinion, well, personal.*

Skimpy male armor is so scarce in mainstream media that there is no way to criticize any particular one without sounding as if you found the mere concept of a man in sexy armor bad.
And, if you asked me, that concept, unlike the concept of sexy female armor, is not bad, it is subversive and therefore sheds light at the inherent problem of skimpy female armor.

~Ozzie

* Is is also advised to examine thoroughly what exactly makes the design supposedly “bad” to you.
If you (likely) discover that it’s the same element that makes the design “sexy”, then you officially missed the point.

PS: Regarding your other message concerning Japan’s sensibilities, I’d advice you to read this post.