Fiore
Lucas submitted:
I think i saw Star Ocean 5 here before but i’m not sure. They finally released some in game screenshots and the art for the main characters.
As anyone can see, the green haired girl quite a “unoptimal attire”. Her name is Fiore and here is her art.
I’ve seen a lot of crazy outfits in games but this is reaches around the “i can’t even” tier. Everything looks so glued into her i have no idea how she managed to wear that in the first place.
But hey, i’m sure she must have a “good reason” to walk around like that right? According to one interview with the devs here:
F: I’d like to ask about a newly introduced character, Fiore. Is there a story behind her attire? (laugh)
K: In order to use spells in this world, mages must have a spellmark*** carved somewhere on their bodies. To show off the strength of her own spells, Fiore prefers to wear the kind of outfit that you’ve taken notice to. In Randock, the country that Fiore lives in, there are outfits used specially by Spellmark Mages, and you can customize these in any which way you want. I can ensure you they are far from being indecent (laugh).
Oh, so she needs to expose her skin to use her magic and “chose” to dress like that to show of her strenght!
At least she isnt breathing through her skin.(I wonder if these guys are laughing because even they can’t keep a serious face with this crap)But despite that, he isn’t wrong. I searched a bit and found out that this is “normal” in the Star Ocean universe. For example, this is Nel from Star Ocean: Till the end of time
As you can see, she “needs” to show off her thighs because the “magical marks”. But if that’s the case, then there are some problems here.
First is that, if Fiore really needs to show her marks, she doesnt need to show that much skin, only the necessary. And second is, Fiore doesnt have any marks. I keep looking the screenshots but cant find any.
This is even more disappointing. I mean, if you’re gonna invent a stupid excuse to make the character walk around semi-naked, at least go all the way and try to convince people, don’t lie about it and leave it that.
Yes, we featured that design before on BABD, and now that her special reasons for “choosing” to dress that way are revealed, it somehow got MUCH worse.
To be precise, Fiore does have a mark on her thigh, as seen in this pic of her on EscherGirls:
How does that explain wearing holes all over her body, not just that one spot on the leg? Hell if I know.
Dear Star Ocean crew: if you really want to excuse obvious sexualization with
a diegetic argument, then the least you could do is stay consistent within your own logic. It would still not be valid justification, but at least a less insulting one.
~Ozzie
Fiore
Lucas submitted:
I think i saw Star Ocean 5 here before but i’m not sure. They finally released some in game screenshots and the art for the main characters.
As anyone can see, the green haired girl quite a “unoptimal attire”. Her name is Fiore and here is her art.
I’ve seen a lot of crazy outfits in games but this is reaches around the “i can’t even” tier. Everything looks so glued into her i have no idea how she managed to wear that in the first place.
But hey, i’m sure she must have a “good reason” to walk around like that right? According to one interview with the devs here:
F: I’d like to ask about a newly introduced character, Fiore. Is there a story behind her attire? (laugh)
K: In order to use spells in this world, mages must have a spellmark*** carved somewhere on their bodies. To show off the strength of her own spells, Fiore prefers to wear the kind of outfit that you’ve taken notice to. In Randock, the country that Fiore lives in, there are outfits used specially by Spellmark Mages, and you can customize these in any which way you want. I can ensure you they are far from being indecent (laugh).
Oh, so she needs to expose her skin to use her magic and “chose” to dress like that to show of her strenght!
At least she isnt breathing through her skin.(I wonder if these guys are laughing because even they can’t keep a serious face with this crap)But despite that, he isn’t wrong. I searched a bit and found out that this is “normal” in the Star Ocean universe. For example, this is Nel from Star Ocean: Till the end of time
As you can see, she “needs” to show off her thighs because the “magical marks”. But if that’s the case, then there are some problems here.
First is that, if Fiore really needs to show her marks, she doesnt need to show that much skin, only the necessary. And second is, Fiore doesnt have any marks. I keep looking the screenshots but cant find any.
This is even more disappointing. I mean, if you’re gonna invent a stupid excuse to make the character walk around semi-naked, at least go all the way and try to convince people, don’t lie about it and leave it that.
Yes, we featured that design before on BABD, and now that her special reasons for “choosing” to dress that way are revealed, it somehow got MUCH worse.
To be precise, Fiore does have a mark on her thigh, as seen in this pic of her on EscherGirls:
How does that explain wearing holes all over her body, not just that one spot on the leg? Hell if I know.
Dear Star Ocean crew: if you really want to excuse obvious sexualization with
a diegetic argument, then the least you could do is stay consistent within your own logic. It would still not be valid justification, but at least a less insulting one.
~Ozzie
“Battle Costume Cammy”
nora-bright submitted:
Preorder bonus outfit for Cammy called “Battle Costume Cammy.”
According them this her being “Decked out in mission gear, Cammy is ready to complete her next objective!”
I gotta ask, what kind of battle, mission and objective are they expecting her to do in that without feeling a constant wedgie? Like seriously, that must be digging into her crotch no matter what she does.
I can already hear the furious hammering of keys as people rush to tell us that we should know Cammy has always been a heavily sexualized since she was introduced twenty-two years ago. Being particularly famous for this:
Briefly however, let’s discuss how here original ridiculous outfit from 1993 (when people thought Rob Liefeld was a genius) has gotten even more ridiculous both in the pre-order and the standard:
That’s right, her costume now has the crotch section trimmed down, comes with extra straps to draw more attention to her boobs and has vacuum sealing around the navel.
I am genuinely perplexed how someone could even begin to think that such a thing would be bareable to wear standing still, let alone jumping around in full contact tournament fighting.
– wincenworks
“Battle Costume Cammy”
nora-bright submitted:
Preorder bonus outfit for Cammy called “Battle Costume Cammy.”
According them this her being “Decked out in mission gear, Cammy is ready to complete her next objective!”
I gotta ask, what kind of battle, mission and objective are they expecting her to do in that without feeling a constant wedgie? Like seriously, that must be digging into her crotch no matter what she does.
I can already hear the furious hammering of keys as people rush to tell us that we should know Cammy has always been a heavily sexualized since she was introduced twenty-two years ago. Being particularly famous for this:
Briefly however, let’s discuss how here original ridiculous outfit from 1993 (when people thought Rob Liefeld was a genius) has gotten even more ridiculous both in the pre-order and the standard:
That’s right, her costume now has the crotch section trimmed down, comes with extra straps to draw more attention to her boobs and has vacuum sealing around the navel.
I am genuinely perplexed how someone could even begin to think that such a thing would be bareable to wear standing still, let alone jumping around in full contact tournament fighting.
– wincenworks
Genei Ibun Roku#FE
2goldensnitches submitted:
I’m sure more than a few of you have seen news regarding the crossover between Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem. The concept is exciting and the characters seem likeable (and it’s always nice to see familiar faces from Fire Emblem), but if there’s one thing I’ve decided that not even the gameplay and writing can explain well enough, it’s the costumes.
Here is Shiida/Caeda, best known as Marth’s comrade and wife as well as an accomplished pegasus knight:
And here is her design for SMT x FE:
My biggest questions are why she has random cutouts on her outfit (especially on her crotch) and why her clothes have to be so tight they effectively create boobsocks.
She is the Mirage Partner to Tsubasa Oribe:
It’s worth nothing that her school clothes are fine but her combat wardrobe is kinda baffling:
And, according to a post on serenesnet (a Fire Emblem forum), there’s also a scene where she apparently strips down to her skivvies in the middle of the street:
Other characters include Eleonora Yumizuru, an archer whose clothing would actually be pretty cool if she wasn’t also part of that weird bare thighs clothing trope:
Kiria Kurono, a famous idol who shows her midriff and some amount of cleavage in almost all of her outfits:
Her name refers to the mage class and possibly dark magic – funny how sorceresses associated with dark magic almost always get skimpy clothes! Some speculation ties her to characters like Lyn, a swordswoman from the seventh Fire Emblem game, and Soren, a wind mage from the ninth and tenth games.
Aversa, a character from the thirteenth Fire Emblem game, returns as an enemy mirage. As one of the most sexualised characters in Awakening, her design combines her class as a dark flier with her constantly exposed boobies:
I think it’s an odd choice to have her return as a villain given that it’s possible for her to become redeemed of her actions in Awakening; by redeemed I mean that you can unlock her as a playable character and you learn that the antagonist brainwashed her into being loyal to him and massacring her village to keep anyone from learning this – she joins Chrom’s army to atone. I hope they haven’t retconned that aspect of her character just to keep her as a “dark femme fatale” (again).
The male characters of the game, Toma Akagi (whose Mirage Partner is Cain) and Itsuki Aoi (whose Mirage Partner is Chrom), of course get much better costumes; Toma looks every inch a knight and Itsuki looks very princely and aristocratic, complete with a fancy rapier and cravat.
I always knew that Fire Emblem and Shin Megami almost always have iffy moments in its wardrobe choices for women (with a few games wonderfully ignoring that standard), but this is odd for both series, even if a major part of the game is music and the idol industry. That fact may justify the idol segments and costumes, but not the combat clothing.
I hope this doesn’t mean that the game will turn out to be a dud, because this is one many fans have been anticipating for a while. However, I can’t say the same for all fans, since some of them have taken issue with more than just the costumes:
(Disclaimer for those of you already typing angry comments: We are aware that Hayao Miyazaki never actually said “Anime was a mistake.”, that doesn’t change that so much of the industry makes it believable he would say it)
Sadly this is pretty much what happens when Creepy Marketing Guys are left unsupervised and decide that the visual aspect of the game is the most important part (it’s the easiest to use in advertising) and so the “sex sells” angle is responsible for the success of the previous games.
Ironically, this tends to create more problems because as the Dead or Alive community has noticed – it makes it really hard to convince anyone that there’s actually anything else to the games.
– wincenworks
Genei Ibun Roku#FE
2goldensnitches submitted:
I’m sure more than a few of you have seen news regarding the crossover between Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem. The concept is exciting and the characters seem likeable (and it’s always nice to see familiar faces from Fire Emblem), but if there’s one thing I’ve decided that not even the gameplay and writing can explain well enough, it’s the costumes.
Here is Shiida/Caeda, best known as Marth’s comrade and wife as well as an accomplished pegasus knight:
And here is her design for SMT x FE:
My biggest questions are why she has random cutouts on her outfit (especially on her crotch) and why her clothes have to be so tight they effectively create boobsocks.
She is the Mirage Partner to Tsubasa Oribe:
It’s worth nothing that her school clothes are fine but her combat wardrobe is kinda baffling:
And, according to a post on serenesnet (a Fire Emblem forum), there’s also a scene where she apparently strips down to her skivvies in the middle of the street:
Other characters include Eleonora Yumizuru, an archer whose clothing would actually be pretty cool if she wasn’t also part of that weird bare thighs clothing trope:
Kiria Kurono, a famous idol who shows her midriff and some amount of cleavage in almost all of her outfits:
Her name refers to the mage class and possibly dark magic – funny how sorceresses associated with dark magic almost always get skimpy clothes! Some speculation ties her to characters like Lyn, a swordswoman from the seventh Fire Emblem game, and Soren, a wind mage from the ninth and tenth games.
Aversa, a character from the thirteenth Fire Emblem game, returns as an enemy mirage. As one of the most sexualised characters in Awakening, her design combines her class as a dark flier with her constantly exposed boobies:
I think it’s an odd choice to have her return as a villain given that it’s possible for her to become redeemed of her actions in Awakening; by redeemed I mean that you can unlock her as a playable character and you learn that the antagonist brainwashed her into being loyal to him and massacring her village to keep anyone from learning this – she joins Chrom’s army to atone. I hope they haven’t retconned that aspect of her character just to keep her as a “dark femme fatale” (again).
The male characters of the game, Toma Akagi (whose Mirage Partner is Cain) and Itsuki Aoi (whose Mirage Partner is Chrom), of course get much better costumes; Toma looks every inch a knight and Itsuki looks very princely and aristocratic, complete with a fancy rapier and cravat.
I always knew that Fire Emblem and Shin Megami almost always have iffy moments in its wardrobe choices for women (with a few games wonderfully ignoring that standard), but this is odd for both series, even if a major part of the game is music and the idol industry. That fact may justify the idol segments and costumes, but not the combat clothing.
I hope this doesn’t mean that the game will turn out to be a dud, because this is one many fans have been anticipating for a while. However, I can’t say the same for all fans, since some of them have taken issue with more than just the costumes:
(Disclaimer for those of you already typing angry comments: We are aware that Hayao Miyazaki never actually said “Anime was a mistake.”, that doesn’t change that so much of the industry makes it believable he would say it)
Sadly this is pretty much what happens when Creepy Marketing Guys are left unsupervised and decide that the visual aspect of the game is the most important part (it’s the easiest to use in advertising) and so the “sex sells” angle is responsible for the success of the previous games.
Ironically, this tends to create more problems because as the Dead or Alive community has noticed – it makes it really hard to convince anyone that there’s actually anything else to the games.
– wincenworks
