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Tidy Up Tuesday #44

A longer tidy-up this week:

While tangentially related to BABD, we gotta thank all the readers who directed us at @wackd‘s Bad Genderbend Bingo, a very acute look into double standards in redesigning an established character to be of different sex/gender (in this bingo’s case, male to female).

Few more facts regarding Frank Cho storming off DC due to “censorship” of his optional Wonder Woman covers:

  • It was not disclosed to Cho that Greg Rucka, the writer for recent Wonder Woman run, was given creative control over all the cover art.
  • Cho seems to regard “artistic freedom” of his optional cover freelance contract equally (if not more) valid to Rucka’s script freelance contract with DC.
  • While Rucka asked for several changes in Cho’s covers, cropping of the gratuitous pantyshot in issue #3 is what ultimately prompted the artist to quit.

For those confused why we didn’t heap unconditional praise over Ana Amari’s design is because Blizzard has a long history of taking a very safe half-step forward and expecting praise (and then halting all progress indefinitely).  Overwatch has an abundance of problems that aren’t going to be fixed by adding a new character or pretending the game has something close to gender equitable representation.

Thing we addressed before:

~Ozzie & – wincenworks

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Tidy Up Tuesday #44

A longer tidy-up this week:

While tangentially related to BABD, we gotta thank all the readers who directed us at @wackd‘s Bad Genderbend Bingo, a very acute look into double standards in redesigning an established character to be of different sex/gender (in this bingo’s case, male to female).

Few more facts regarding Frank Cho storming off DC due to “censorship” of his optional Wonder Woman covers:

  • It was not disclosed to Cho that Greg Rucka, the writer for recent Wonder Woman run, was given creative control over all the cover art.
  • Cho seems to regard “artistic freedom” of his optional cover freelance contract equally (if not more) valid to Rucka’s script freelance contract with DC.
  • While Rucka asked for several changes in Cho’s covers, cropping of the gratuitous pantyshot in issue #3 is what ultimately prompted the artist to quit.

For those confused why we didn’t heap unconditional praise over Ana Amari’s design is because Blizzard has a long history of taking a very safe half-step forward and expecting praise (and then halting all progress indefinitely).  Overwatch has an abundance of problems that aren’t going to be fixed by adding a new character or pretending the game has something close to gender equitable representation.

Thing we addressed before:

~Ozzie & – wincenworks

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Frank Cho Walks Off Wonder Woman After Sixth Cover

Frank Cho Walks Off Wonder Woman After Sixth Cover

Surprise, surprise! The guy who did the apologist “parody” of Milo Manara’s infamous ButtSpider Woman cover and who just wouldn’t back down from doing more when it kept being criticized, throws a hissy fit and leaves DC under the pretense of Greg Rucka, the writer, “censoring” a butt out of his optional Wonder Woman cover. 

If there was any doubt before (and there shouldn’t), it is official that Frank Cho joins the club of professional artists who go all butt-hurt when asked to tone down a little the artwork they were payed to do (as in, to literally do their job).

People like that still getting employed is why we can’t have nice things.

~Ozzie

edit: Since it caused some confusion, for the record, this is the cover Cho claims to have been censored:

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The one tumblr displayed on dashboards was an unfortunate choice as a default pic for the article.

edit 2: Cho also answered to MarySue regarding what changes he was asked to do on his covers and why it angered him so much.

h/t: @filipfatalattractionrblog

more BABD posts about the elusive creative freedom | also recommended: The Outhouser’s followup on the case, explaining what “censorship” really means

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Frank Cho Walks Off Wonder Woman After Sixth Cover

Frank Cho Walks Off Wonder Woman After Sixth Cover

Surprise, surprise! The guy who did the apologist “parody” of Milo Manara’s infamous ButtSpider Woman cover and who just wouldn’t back down from doing more when it kept being criticized, throws a hissy fit and leaves DC under the pretense of Greg Rucka, the writer, “censoring” a butt out of his optional Wonder Woman cover. 

If there was any doubt before (and there shouldn’t), it is official that Frank Cho joins the club of professional artists who go all butt-hurt when asked to tone down a little the artwork they were payed to do (as in, to literally do their job).

People like that still getting employed is why we can’t have nice things.

~Ozzie

edit: Since it caused some confusion, for the record, this is the cover Cho claims to have been censored:

image

The one tumblr displayed on dashboards was an unfortunate choice as a default pic for the article.

edit 2: Cho also answered to MarySue regarding what changes he was asked to do on his covers and why it angered him so much.

h/t: @filipfatalattractionrblog

more BABD posts about the elusive creative freedom | also recommended: The Outhouser’s followup on the case, explaining what “censorship” really means

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So… initially I thought that Lady Hellbender was the Totally Awesome Hulk… but then I noticed the green guy and the alternative cover.  So despite the obvious issues of her costume, I figured I’d look into who she was and wy she was on the cover. And why was she wearing lingerie instead of armor?

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Yes, she’s been around for literally two issues and we’re already being sold on the idea she’ll want to bang the Hulk.  Now her costume makes sense… good job on being refreshingly honest Marvel.

– wincenworks

A friend at @hellyeahteensuperheroes informed me that so far in the story it’s only the (new) Hulk who shows attraction towards Hellbender, not the other way round. The last image is a cover for the yet unpublished issue #4, so this will probably change… or maybe Frank Cho, the artist known for his hilarious jokes about women in comics, is just teasing.

Also, Hellbender’s design is so uninspired that apparently readers tend to confuse her with Harley Queen.
Um, Marvel… if your new character looks so generic that people think she’s a popular DC villain, you’re prooobably doing something wrong.

The only (for the lack of a better word) original thing I see in her costume are those bars on her pelvis that seem to emulate how a thong looks. Which really doesn’t speak well of what the designer’s priorities are.

~Ozzie

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Liefeld Calls for Stand Against Artists Being “Crucified” in Wake of Frank Cho Spider-Gwen Controversy; Campbell, Chin, Other Pros Respond

Liefeld Calls for Stand Against Artists Being “Crucified” in Wake of Frank Cho Spider-Gwen Controversy; Campbell, Chin, Other Pros Respond

Rob Liefeld is shocked and outraged that apparently there are people who will openly speak out against the casual objectification of women in media (particularly the Frank Cho “parody” of the infamous Milo Manara Spider Woman cover).  Naturally, the totally unbiased fellow artist J Scott Campbell is right behind him!

Rob, you remember your most celebrated contribution to comics is a guy right? One who is celebrated for his personality over his aesthetic design. Your opinion is actually less relevant than Erik Larsen’s (who at least still works on his property). Seriously Rob, you’re not exactly celebrated as an artist and trying to value artists by “commercial success” is not exactly high brow.

Please brodudes, tell me again how there is no problem here and we’re just reading way too much into things and there’s never been misogynistic attitudes being perpetuated by big names in the industries.  Tell me how it’s about the artistry. I am fascinated by this enlightening view, verily.

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– wincenworks

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Liefeld Calls for Stand Against Artists Being “Crucified” in Wake of Frank Cho Spider-Gwen Controversy; Campbell, Chin, Other Pros Respond

Liefeld Calls for Stand Against Artists Being “Crucified” in Wake of Frank Cho Spider-Gwen Controversy; Campbell, Chin, Other Pros Respond

Rob Liefeld is shocked and outraged that apparently there are people who will openly speak out against the casual objectification of women in media (particularly the Frank Cho “parody” of the infamous Milo Manara Spider Woman cover).  Naturally, the totally unbiased fellow artist J Scott Campbell is right behind him!

Rob, you remember your most celebrated contribution to comics is a guy right? One who is celebrated for his personality over his aesthetic design. Your opinion is actually less relevant than Erik Larsen’s (who at least still works on his property). Seriously Rob, you’re not exactly celebrated as an artist and trying to value artists by “commercial success” is not exactly high brow.

Please brodudes, tell me again how there is no problem here and we’re just reading way too much into things and there’s never been misogynistic attitudes being perpetuated by big names in the industries.  Tell me how it’s about the artistry. I am fascinated by this enlightening view, verily.

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– wincenworks