Hi! First of all thank you for your hard work, this blog opened my eyes about the game industry and made me realize how sexist it is. I’m sending you this cause I have some mixed feeling about one one of my favorite characters: Bayonetta. I know she’s sexualized to the extreme and thats sad, cause she’s awesome, and I still like her. My question its if you think its okay to like a sexualized character like her and still be against the bikini armor, or maybe that’s hypocrite? Thanks for reading.

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

It’s perfectly okay, normal and healthy to enjoy things that are problematic.  There is a DIRE shortage of media that isn’t problematic and nobody should be expected to just sit in a corner and wait until something perfect comes along.  Furthermore, media creators can’t be expected to create better media unless they release things to be critiqued so they can do better next time.

The problems come when people deny media they like has problems and want to hold it above critique or when they decide that if anything detracts from the media then it’s not worth worrying about.  Not only does it lead to a lack of progress – it leads to people normalizing and internalizing the problems.

As an example: Bayonetta core concept is pretty awesome and open to all kinds of interpretations – super witch with unlimited access to magic and fashion who battles all kinds of powerful and weird stuff.  The gameplay exists essentially independent of the concept and is really enjoyable for many people. 

It’s just unfortunate that literally everything in the production sets cranking the male gaze up to 11/10 as the top priority.  Whether the problems offset the fun aspects is a matter entirely up to the individual experiencing it at the time- what aspects could have been improved is a matter between critics and creators.

– wincenworks

How to be a Fan of Problematic Things

Bringing this back since the new @femfreq video has got the Internet in a giant flame war over whether Bayonetta is an textbook example of sexism in media or a flawless depiction of female empowerment.

It’s absolutely fine to like problematic things, because no matter what you fave, your fave is going to be problematic.  There will be issues of representation and ways things could have been done better.

– wincenworks

(edit: It appears Social Justice League’s site is having some issues, an archived version of the How to be a Fan of Problematic things is available here.

lidoxia:

Hi! First of all thank you for your hard work, this blog opened my eyes about the game industry and made me realize how sexist it is. I’m sending you this cause I have some mixed feeling about one one of my favorite characters: Bayonetta. I know she’s sexualized to the extreme and thats sad, cause she’s awesome, and I still like her. My question its if you think its okay to like a sexualized character like her and still be against the bikini armor, or maybe that’s hypocrite? Thanks for reading.

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

It’s perfectly okay, normal and healthy to enjoy things that are problematic.  There is a DIRE shortage of media that isn’t problematic and nobody should be expected to just sit in a corner and wait until something perfect comes along.  Furthermore, media creators can’t be expected to create better media unless they release things to be critiqued so they can do better next time.

The problems come when people deny media they like has problems and want to hold it above critique or when they decide that if anything detracts from the media then it’s not worth worrying about.  Not only does it lead to a lack of progress – it leads to people normalizing and internalizing the problems.

As an example: Bayonetta core concept is pretty awesome and open to all kinds of interpretations – super witch with unlimited access to magic and fashion who battles all kinds of powerful and weird stuff.  The gameplay exists essentially independent of the concept and is really enjoyable for many people. 

It’s just unfortunate that literally everything in the production sets cranking the male gaze up to 11/10 as the top priority.  Whether the problems offset the fun aspects is a matter entirely up to the individual experiencing it at the time- what aspects could have been improved is a matter between critics and creators.

– wincenworks

How to be a Fan of Problematic Things

Bringing this back since the new @femfreq video has got the Internet in a giant flame war over whether Bayonetta is an textbook example of sexism in media or a flawless depiction of female empowerment.

It’s absolutely fine to like problematic things, because no matter what you fave, your fave is going to be problematic.  There will be issues of representation and ways things could have been done better.

– wincenworks

(edit: It appears Social Justice League’s site is having some issues, an archived version of the How to be a Fan of Problematic things is available here.

the new character in UNIEL is uh

hyratel:

doctorbutler:

kumagawa:

It’s Loli McSteampunch, the brass-knuckled waifu!

@bikiniarmorbattledamage presented without comment

Apparently her actual name is Mika… I’m sure that’s a coincidence as is the resemblance to a certain zombie slaying cheerleader.  And even she doesn’t seem that happy about being the latest in female characters who are given huge gauntlets in the hopes of making their bodies look tiny.

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Add to that I’m kind of terrified with how they started her boots really wide, but then remembered they wanted her to have tiny feet – resulting in her legs looking like golf tees.

– wincenworks

the new character in UNIEL is uh

hyratel:

doctorbutler:

kumagawa:

It’s Loli McSteampunch, the brass-knuckled waifu!

@bikiniarmorbattledamage presented without comment

Apparently her actual name is Mika… I’m sure that’s a coincidence as is the resemblance to a certain zombie slaying cheerleader.  And even she doesn’t seem that happy about being the latest in female characters who are given huge gauntlets in the hopes of making their bodies look tiny.

image

Add to that I’m kind of terrified with how they started her boots really wide, but then remembered they wanted her to have tiny feet – resulting in her legs looking like golf tees.

– wincenworks

femfreq:

The latest episode of Tropes vs. Women in Video Games is live! 

In “Lingerie Is Not Armor,” we explore the ways in which female characters are frequently placed in wildly impractical, sexualizing outfits specifically designed to objectify them for the titillation of the presumed straight male player. We then discuss the problems inherent in linking the sexualization of female characters to notions of female empowerment, and examine what positive depictions of female sexuality and sexual desire in games might look like.

You can find a list of resources and a full transcript on our website.

Finally, the Tropes vs. Women in Video Games episode we awaited the most arrives! And it doesn’t disappoint.

Not surprisingly, Anita touches many subjects we frequently discuss on BABD, including:

~Ozzie

No, but guys, picture this:

irregularjohnnywiggins:

A retelling of Wonder Woman’s origin story…

…Where the reason she’s got the Bikini of Power is that the Amazons sent her out into the modern day to ‘fit in’, but they looked at pop culture and our media first and just assumed ‘really unrealistic bikini armours’ are just how our female soldiers dress.

And when Wonder Woman finds out it’s not, she goes and finds herself some pants.

…I think I’m going to write this at some point.

Now THAT is a sensible excuse to have Wonder Woman wear something as ridiculous as she usually does! Also it reminds me of her old origin story where basically it was decided she’d wear USA’s colors, so that she’ll be a better ambassador to the outside world.

I’d totally read that take on the character.

~Ozzie

more Wonder Woman on BABD