NYCC: Simone, Scott revamp Red Sonja, Vampirella & Dejah Thoris for Dynamite

NYCC: Simone, Scott revamp Red Sonja, Vampirella & Dejah Thoris for Dynamite

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

I feel that the most critical step to really re-inventing those characters would be to get them away from Dynamite Entertainment. 

I enjoy Gail Simone’s re-invention of Red Sonja and understand there’s a balancing act with the branding and appearance.  But an ongoing thing with Dynamite Entertainment is that they stockpile old characters to use them in spinoffs, mash-ups, etc.

So far, at Dynamite, we’ve had:

I mean – these are the most recent spinoffs (one working with Dark Horse):

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Furthermore, while these designs might be bold for Dynamite, they’re not really that bold when you step back and look.

Red Sonja is basically back to a sexier version of the outfit she in her very first appearance, Vampirella appeared in a space suit in March (and I remember seeing concept ideas to re-invent her wearing full body gear in the 90s) – and okay, the movie bombed but nobody thinks it’s because of what Lynn Carter wore as Dejah Thoris.

What would really be bold – is actually re-inventing these characters without anchoring them to bad branding and design decision made in 70s (or earlier). Red Sonja has changed far more than her costume has, and not updating her appearance to reflect that hampers the comic.

At the end of the day – the reason these properties got sold to Dynamite Entertainment and the reason this is the second time Red Sonja’s been re-invented since then is because the old branding isn’t speaking to audiences today.

– wincenworks

So, a year ago I expressed that I was less than excited about Dynamite’s “commitment” to reinventing a bunch of heroines including Red Sonja as less they hyper-sexualized.  Now to be fair, they release the new Volume 3 run… a whole six issues of it! (FYI, Volume 2 got 21 issues and Volume 1 got 81 issues before getting rebooted)

However starting next year they’re going to be starting a Volume 4 run! Want to see the amazingly creative ideas they’ve got to take the title in a whole new direction unlike anything else in comics?

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No it’s Red Sonja the pinup model (by J Scott Campbell none the less) or Red Sonja / Game of Thrones crossover, it’s Red Sonja… in the battle bikini… in New York (a place where surely no other comic has ever been set!). It actually is.  And they’re very proud of this creative costume decision! Nothing saves a comic that’s on it’s forth incarnation like a combination of what hasn’t worked twice before and New York!

Interesting Dejah Thoris and Vampirella also got their new looks cancelled after  exactly six issues too… it’s almost like many publishers will set unrealistic expectations on some products so they can say they tried – the go back to a particular strategy regardless of how often it fails.

I cannot imagine how this industry could be connected to so much real life toxic behavior.  It’s really such a mystery why there’s a huge demographic of fans who rage and the idea that women are not objects.

– wincenworks

P.S. For those frantically typing something about how if it only got six issues it was probably sales and the concept deserved to be dropped – I would like those bring something to your attention:

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Lady Rawhide has gotten multiple series of her own under two publishers with essentially identical concepts, the highest issue count for each is five.

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

crackingskullz:

shensation:

donthatemecusimbeautiful:

Girl’s Costume Warehouse (X)

ITS BACK

and frog

And don’t forget the warehouse’s special warrior department, presenting:

Sexy barbarian:

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Sexy assassin:

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Sexy knight:

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Sexy archer:

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Sexy alien superhero

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Sexy evil wizard

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Sexy gladiator:

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Sexy space soldier:

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Sexy corpse:

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Sexy war nun looking for redemption through death:

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The classic, Sexy little girl transformed into a powerful beast:

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~Ozzie

And frog:

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– wincenworks

And of course, what’s Halloween without the off-brand costumes?

Sexy Purple Murder Lady (x)

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Sexy Gold and Little Wing Bits Armor Lady (x)

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Sexy Warrior Lady in Weird Cocktail Dress (x)

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Sexy Space Nerd Girl Who Loves Lollipops (x)

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Sexy Tiny Adorable Animal Gladiator (x)

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One thing’s for sure: I’m scared.

– wincenworks

If you like Return Of The Jedi but hate the Ewoks, you understand feminist criticism

If you like Return Of The Jedi but hate the Ewoks, you understand feminist criticism

If you like Return Of The Jedi but hate the Ewoks, you understand feminist criticism

If you like Return Of The Jedi but hate the Ewoks, you understand feminist criticism

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

Not only does this article have a brilliant title, it also explains very well the false dychotomy of feminist media criticism.

Notable quotes:

We’ve fallen into an all-or-nothing rut with feminist criticism lately. Battle lines are immediately drawn between movies that are “feminist” (i.e. “good”) and “sexist” (i.e. “bad”). And that simplistic breakdown is hurting our ability to actually talk about this stuff.

Feminist criticism isn’t about ripping something to shreds or making others feel guilty for liking it. It’s simply about pointing out a specific creative weakness and then taking that a step further to explain the real-world social ramifications of that weakness, all in the hopes of dissuading future filmmakers from making the same mistake.

I dedicate this article to every single person who ever implied that by criticizing female character designs, we’re apparently disapproving of the whole product those characters are featured in*. 

Cause, again:

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~Ozzie

*Sometimes we do, but it takes some special levels of terribad to make us write off the whole product, not only its treatment of female characters.

In the light of certain discussions we had throughout last week, it’s time to bring back this article as a reminder that it’s totally okay to love media you love, while acknowledging its problematic aspects

On a related note, it’s also crucial to remember that being critical of things like video games or comics does not mean someone’s not invested in “real world issues” and should discuss them instead.

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[tweet source]

~Ozzie

languray submitted:

Haydee is a legit actual game, you can buy for real money ($14.99 USD) on Steam. The dev team for this game was made up entirely of Creepy Marketing Guys. The main character is literally just a pair of (constantly jiggling) boobs, on top of an ass in a thong that screams chafing, and bare legs with pumps. In a sci-fi action game. The worst part is, the character doesn’t even get a face! Literally her head is a blank white surface, robbing her of any humanity or agency beyond pure sexual characteristics. 

Here’s a game TONS of readers asked us to talk about. @languray’s summary seems pretty spot-on.

A faceless pair of cyborg boobs and prominent butt (carefully shoved in the third person camera at every angle) running around environments that can be summed up as Poor Man’s Portal.

It’s also quite impressive how uninspired the official Steam description is:

“Haydee” is a hardcore old-style metroidvania mixed with modern-day third person shooter and platformer mechanics. As well as a sexy character.

“[Insert title] is [insert adjectives that pander to stereotypical gamer] [insert buzzword game genres]. As well as a sexy character.”

Funnily, despite not sharing the same aesthetic or mechanics, Hydee’s “more like this” recommendations on Steam are for Sakura games and similar titles including nudity and/or sexual content (also, for reasons unclear, one casual platformer about Jesus). No other “metroidvanias mixed with modern third person shooter and platformer mechanics”, though.

Guess it’s official that having gratuitous female sexualization front and center means otherwise completely different games are basically the same genre.

~Ozzie

This game is a worrying example of how much the myth that sex sells can distort design priorities. It seems clear that the main character model was basically the main focus of the developers, and the fanbase.

This model is not only used for the Player Character, it’s used for:

  • decorating walls (starting in the very first room)
  • signaling danger with pre-populated corpses in pits and traps
  • providing loot off pre-populated corpses in other places

So basically they’ve used it to tell players to go over to an area for a reward, to avoid an area due to danger and to tell the player this room was boring so they added boobs.  Another “sexy corpses” game.  Just what the world needed.

Unsurprisingly, given it’s target market, it’s reviews are in many ways more entertaining than the game.  If the achievements are to be believed, less than 3% of players have finished the game and less than 50% earn an achievement after the tutorial… yet it has “mostly positive” reviews.

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It’s like they don’t really care about games, they just want to put their politics into everything and decided they were going to rate this game up regardless of the content so as to inflict their personal agenda on everyone else…

That and well everyone who might be interested in judging it on it’s merit can tell not to bother spending the money or time on it.

– wincenworks

Wildstorm

@universe63 submitted:

Wildstorm, Jim Lee’s old imprint, is back and new character designs are appearing and we’re seeing some intriguing redesigns.

Examples:

Old Zealot

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New Zealot

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Old Engineer:

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New Engineer:

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New Engineer out of armor:

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Okay first @nebezial-asheri reincarnated Witchblade with Switch now

@warrenellis is taking the distilled essence of 90s comics (aka Wildstorm) and transform it into something I’m actually really eager to read. (article here)

What an amazing time to be alive and into comics!

– wincenworks

Wildstorm

@universe63 submitted:

Wildstorm, Jim Lee’s old imprint, is back and new character designs are appearing and we’re seeing some intriguing redesigns.

Examples:

Old Zealot

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New Zealot

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Old Engineer:

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New Engineer:

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New Engineer out of armor:

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Okay first @nebezial-asheri reincarnated Witchblade with Switch now

@warrenellis is taking the distilled essence of 90s comics (aka Wildstorm) and transform it into something I’m actually really eager to read. (article here)

What an amazing time to be alive and into comics!

– wincenworks

Legends of Tomorrow

@whereismywizardhat submitted:

After seeing the promotional picture for the Legends of Tomorrow version of the Justice Society of America, and specifically their version of Stargirl, I opted to do a five second redesign to make the look feel… well, more like something a superpowered woman in the 1940s would wear.

My Redesign

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The source

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It should be noted that Stargirl in the comics looks almost identical to the source photo, but she is also set in modern day, not 1941.

Look, I get that superhero costumes were based on the super tight outfits strongmen wore in order to show off their physique.  That does not mean when transplanting a female character to WWII you can bring her costume without baggage.

I have to say, I really like the redesign – it’s nice and conveys the spirit of the era without fussing about too much with the specifics or worrying about trying to pin down a particular moment in fashion.  

As for the official image.. there’s something about the super heroine costumes I just can’t put my finger on… something to do with history.  Something the show probably should have come across while doing some research on World War Two era fashions, life and technology…

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Seriously DC Comics, you should know better… not even Catwoman wore spandex in the 1940s and she was a femme fatale from word go!

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– wincenworks

Legends of Tomorrow

@whereismywizardhat submitted:

After seeing the promotional picture for the Legends of Tomorrow version of the Justice Society of America, and specifically their version of Stargirl, I opted to do a five second redesign to make the look feel… well, more like something a superpowered woman in the 1940s would wear.

My Redesign

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The source

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It should be noted that Stargirl in the comics looks almost identical to the source photo, but she is also set in modern day, not 1941.

Look, I get that superhero costumes were based on the super tight outfits strongmen wore in order to show off their physique.  That does not mean when transplanting a female character to WWII you can bring her costume without baggage.

I have to say, I really like the redesign – it’s nice and conveys the spirit of the era without fussing about too much with the specifics or worrying about trying to pin down a particular moment in fashion.  

As for the official image.. there’s something about the super heroine costumes I just can’t put my finger on… something to do with history.  Something the show probably should have come across while doing some research on World War Two era fashions, life and technology…

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Seriously DC Comics, you should know better… not even Catwoman wore spandex in the 1940s and she was a femme fatale from word go!

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– wincenworks