10 Stupid Arguments People Use To Defend Comic Book Sexism

10 Stupid Arguments People Use To Defend Comic Book Sexism

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

An article from 2014 that is no less relevant today. Not surprisingly, all the arguments listed have their place on the Female Armor Rhetoric Bingo.

Here’s one of the summarizing paragraphs of the list which I find most important:

If people only “lose their minds” when the comics industry objectifies women or ignores its female audience, that’s because it’s not happening the other way around. Male readers are not being ignored, and female readers are not being pandered to at the cost of men’s dignity.

~Ozzie

more debunking of pro-sexualization rhetoric on BABD  

Given that there’s currently an issue with an editor at Marvel being harassed for existing posting a selfie with coworkers, it’s probably a good time to bring back this core point that there’s a demographic that’s definitely intent on trying to keep women (among others) out of the mediums like comics or games.

And on the topic of these despicable individuals blaming women (and diversity in general) for Marvel’s reduced sales, there’s also an a great thread by Kurt Busiek talking about how comic’s decline can be linked to the industry actively focusing on only the straight white cis male demographic.

– wincenworks

SMITE: Artio

@ultrapastaprincess submitted:

Smite’s newest goddess, Artio, seems to be an improvement. Reasonably dressed for a girl on the battlefield, and she switches to a bear form that is actually bearlike (although with some feminine hair). (full size)

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Unfortunately, the same patch that’s bringing her is bringing this Awilix skin…

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Oh SMITE, I’m not sure if I should be congratulating you on moving on from ripping off Dragon Age to ripping off Horizon: Zero Dawn (rather than, I dunno, looking up the difference between Gaulish Celts and Gaelic Celts… I see that tartan and faux woad), but it seems you also chose to rip off League of Angels as well.

As a side note, remember that time SMITE released Bellona, an almost reasonably well armored goddess?  Check out what skins she has now:

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With SMITE, hope truly is the first step on the road to disappointment.

– wincenworks

Kamihime Project is a strategy game where the player controls a bunch of hot girls mercenaries Goddess Princesses. Wait, where have I heard that before?

This particular lady is apparently Gaia. It’s hard to tell whether there’s any inspiration from the mythological Greek figure… but then again it’s hard to tell anything with this. I just get more confused the more I look at her.

I get the feeling that this game will be making many more appearances on the blog, especially with Creative Characters like these:

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Not to mention their interpretation of Hecatoncheires, the Greek giants with 100 arms and 50 heads….

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I guess the wreath on her head is supposed to mean ‘Greek?’ I just… mm.

-Icy 

Apparently (some of?) those are supposed to be actual figures from different mythologies… This game makes me want to apologize to SMITE, it really hurts.

Also, even though the promo material attempts (if you can call it that) to establish a “personality” for Gaia… it’s amazingly bland and vague AND doesn’t match the character design at all! 

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MUCH CREATIVE!

~Ozzie

Designing Body Swap | Yacht Club Games

Designing Body Swap | Yacht Club Games

Okay, so we had a few people ask for opinions on Yacht Clubs Games adding the Body Swap Mode to Shovel Knight.  I want to preface this by saying I completely believe that they have good intentions and have done some very progressive things (like letting you set your pronouns independent of sprites) but that it also has some issues.

The first is that adding a body swap mode to a game that’s been out nearly three years and still uses very distinctly gendered language and tropes on its store page… is well… a gif is worth a thousand words.

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The second is that while they’ve attempted to be equitable with the first rule provided: “Body swaps should be exactly as gendered as the original character.” this doesn’t factor in that largely their designs are default (male) and deviation (female). You know, The Smurfette Principle. 

Lastly, and linking back to the first point, it’s important to remember that body swap options like this have a very strong tendency to promote an idea of false equality by creating a situation where gender is irrelevant.  In real life, people’s gender is often very, very relevant to how the world interacts with them, their internal motivations and their general experience.

(That’s not to say there’s not a purpose to gender options or characters that exist outside of gender, but rather that one cannot just assume gender doesn’t matter – especially after heavily investing in gender roles)

Further elaboration is below the cut, and I would also like to remind everyone that @dogbomber ‘s “Let’s draw Lady Knights” randomizer is still a thing and still amazing.

– wincenworks

To use one of their own examples, compare King Knight and Queen Knight.

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Now, honestly I think the design in the sketch without the ridiculous boobplate effect was better but if Queen Knight looks like this, then King Knight should really look like Henry VIII combining his party and jousting attire:

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The idea that “boobs decide if female” thing seems to be a trend with a lot of their swap designs, to the point of absurdity with some designs:

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And when they don’t opt for boobs as the signal, it sadly seems to fall down to the idea that a male character has slightly more impressive armor (the most obvious example being The Enchantress) and aggressive stance than a female character.

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As I said, I believe that the intention is there it doesn’t seem to have led to the actual examination of issues like “why are we sexualizing armors in the first place?” and “are we making the female characters seem out of place or a deviation?” 

That can be challenging questions to ask, particularly if you’ve already got a dozen or so designs you really already love – but not asking them tends to result in re-enforcing the same old messages just in different ways.   

It also can create a weird situation where the game tells you there is gender equality by gameplay options, but the rest of the game tells you that all the same old sexism is still there, waiting for you.  

– wincenworks