Filmed this one for @bikiniarmorbattledamage.
Armstreet steel plate legs. Heavy? Yeah. Impossible to move in? Absolutely not. Girls can totally wear armour. I see a hundred girls run around in armour every week. Maneuverable and sexy đ
I love this not only for the demonstration of how proper plate armor still allows for quick and agile movement without great strain – but also the kind of gear worn under the armor (namely the arming belt).
Not only is plate armor designed for vigorous activity (battles are an amazing workout), to allow for denting, but also gear like arming belts that sit beneath it. It can have fitted parts, but itâs never going to be form fitting.
If your interested in more images of well made, well fitted pieces of armor being worn by a woman you should check out @larplyyyyyyfâs blog.
– wincenworks
Hi, I looked through the tags to see if there was anything about clothing but there wasn’t, so I hope this hasn’t been addressed before and that it’s fine to direct my question to this blog: I would like to know how realistic it is to fight in heels, stilettos and such? A lot of stories, movies, etc. have been doing it for ages, but imo it just doesn’t sound like a good idea. There seems to be a lot of challenge and danger to it
High heels are like bikini battle armor. In the realm of fashion, they are helpful because of the way they draw the eye and shape the visual impression of the leg. High heels lengthen the leg, draw the eye up, and highlight the shape of the butt (and more). However, with long term use, they are very hard on the joints (ankles, knees, and hips) and can lead to long term damage.
I know there are people out there who will argue that catsuits, spandex, bikinis, and high heels are practical combat gear for women. Some of them are very well-meaning, some of them are women who buy into it. Youâve probably seen some of them on this site. Theyâre the ones who take the stock photographs of female martial artists doing (slightly awkward looking) high kicks in high heels as âYES GIRLY GIRLS CAN FIGHT TOO!â. Well, they certainly can but not in high heels. (I applaud the women who can do full extension sidekicks in high heels though! What flexibility! Much balance! Incredible skill! A woman who can do a high kick in high heels is a badass. Itâs a testament to their mastery of their body though, not high heel combat viability.)
High heels tip the body forward, putting all the weight on the balls of the feet. If youâve ever walked around in high heels, then you know finding your balance can be tricky (especially on slick surfaces) and running is mostly out. (You can, itâs just awkward.) The original design for high heels was 14th/15th riding boots when they were a menâs fashion choice. They were never designed for walking on land.
My personal problem with the emphasis on high heels and womenâs fashion for female combat oriented characters is the emphasis on visual beauty over practicality and professionalism or any respect for the problems created by reality whatsoever
When it comes to clothing, how you dress your character does actually matter. If a creator or artist approaches their female character with the belief that women donât fight anyway, so further sexualization of them through their clothing doesnât matter in the grand scheme of things then they are actively contributing to the dehumanization of that character and upholding that ideal that women fighting at all (much less on an even plane with men) is a fantasy. (The reality is women all over the world do fight, do take on dangerous jobs in various shapes, sizes, and personalities.)
Why? Because it prioritizes emphasis on their appearance to the outside observer over the concerns of the reality they are facing. Whoever put together their outfit was thinking primarily about how theyâd be perceived not on practical choices of what theyâd choose to wear for traipsing through a sewer. When I think about sewers, peep toe shoes, skinny jeans, and spaghetti straps donât exactly come to mind first as preferred spelunking wear. Galoshes, raincoats, and pants that repel moisture, yeah. Clothes from the $5 bin I donât mind throwing out after, sure. My Coach bag and (if I owned any) $400 Jimmy Choos? Hell, no.
A character doesnât become more badass by ignoring the physical constraints and dangers of the world around them. They just look more stupid. The required level of suspension of disbelief is higher for these characters than their male counterparts.
Now, male artists do this for male characters too. The problem is, of course, that you can actually make a case for fighting in biker boots, a loose leather jacket, and jeans. Thatâs actually practical street combat wear. Leather jackets work as makeshift armor, they can absorb a fair amount of impact. Biker boots are thick, made of leather, protect the shins, and theyâre designed to take impact. They armor the foot. Loose menâs jeans are practical, provide freedom of movement, and theyâre durable against friction burns. They survive longer and theyâre thicker than other kinds of pants. So, when Steven Stallone turns to the camera in a goofy 80s action movie and says âYou donât need to get fancy, lady.â Heâs actually right. You donât.
However, if you have Black Widow do the same in a catsuit, high heels, or even just skinny jeans, a tight fitting leather jacket, a very nice red satin shirt that exposes her breasts, and heavy makeup, itâs not exactly comparable in impact. (One of the nice things about The Winter Soldier was how practically they had her dressed when wearing civvies.) 1) Because she already is dressed fancy and 2) her clothing isnât any more practical to the situation than the person sheâs bitching out.
Plenty of Urban Fantasy protagonists, super heroines, and movie characters do this. Iâm not picking on Black Widow, but sheâs getting passed around a lot. Buffy did this all the time and itâs part of why I couldnât take her seriously (especially in the early seasons). Going down into the sewers in a satin pink spaghetti strap, a mini skirt, and matching sandals. Why? Because she likes sacrificing $100 to $200 in clothing every day. Single parent home, pushing minimal income, constantly complaining about her allowance, while burning a metric shit ton on clothing every single week. How is she affording that? The answer is sheâs not. The clothing just pops out of the snow, like daisies. The same can be said of the female protagonists on The Vampire Diaries.
On the other hand, I give Charmed a pass because they constantly acknowledge how hard demon fighting is on their clothing. They try to fix their clothes with magic, they have to come up with money to repair the manor, they have to buy new clothes, they think about trading in their old styles for more practical ones and decide against it. The daily rigor, the stress on their wallets, the general mundane realities of every day life are expressed in the choices and habits the characters make and maintain. If they have time before facing a given crisis, youâll even see them go run to change. Their clothing isnât practical, but the show at least acknowledges that and uses it to humanize their struggles with being women and demon hunting witches.
The big problem with style and fashion is they help contribute to the idea that women primarily exist in fiction (and in real life) to be looked at. Theyâre decorative first, even when theyâre dangerous. If you remove that aspect, men and women will in fact complain.
Yes, both of them.
Women are presented with a cultural idealization of beauty day in and day out, the stereotypes weâre presented with become a part of what we expect to see and may even idealize in ourselves. Recognition of beauty, being admired, is presented as a goal all women (whether or not they can even achieve the standard)Â should aspire to. Not appearing beautiful is presented as bad by media, unworthy, unable to be loved. Conform to be worthy. For many people, they want both. To fit the cultural ideal of female sexualization while simultaneously rejecting it. Itâs wish fulfillment and thereâs no shame in it, media has told you youâre entire life that this is what you should want to be.
It doesnât exist, but youâll see plenty of people try to make it so anyway like the girls I knew in gym whoâd cake on makeup before going out to play basketball or run the mile.
Looks first.
To challenge the stereotypes, you have to recognize them and that may require changing how you see women in media. Itâs insidious and, more importantly, not necessarily evil. Thereâs nothing wrong with wanting to be wanted, to be beautiful, to be recognized. But how a character looks and what they wear should always, always come second to what they need to get their job done.
I try to beat this by thinking about the situation first, instead of character. I construct a character to deal with a situation. With this set up, practicality usually prevails.
I challenge you followers. When you think of a powerful woman, or a dangerous female, what do you think of first?
-Michi
Super comprehensive and informative (if lengthy) post regarding fighting in high heels. A MUST-READ FOR EVERYONE!
Let me just quote the most important paragraph of it (that relates to female hero costume design in general, not just the footwear):
âA character doesnât become more badass by ignoring the physical constraints and dangers of the world around them. They just look more stupid. The required level of suspension of disbelief is higher for these characters than their male counterparts.â
Finally someone found perfect words for the point that is my answer to all of Female Armor Rhetoric Bingo. Thank you so much, howtofightwrite!
~Ozzie
What time is it? Time to remind everyone of all the arguments why FIGHTING in high heels is a terrible idea!
~Ozzie
Hi, I looked through the tags to see if there was anything about clothing but there wasn’t, so I hope this hasn’t been addressed before and that it’s fine to direct my question to this blog: I would like to know how realistic it is to fight in heels, stilettos and such? A lot of stories, movies, etc. have been doing it for ages, but imo it just doesn’t sound like a good idea. There seems to be a lot of challenge and danger to it
High heels are like bikini battle armor. In the realm of fashion, they are helpful because of the way they draw the eye and shape the visual impression of the leg. High heels lengthen the leg, draw the eye up, and highlight the shape of the butt (and more). However, with long term use, they are very hard on the joints (ankles, knees, and hips) and can lead to long term damage.
I know there are people out there who will argue that catsuits, spandex, bikinis, and high heels are practical combat gear for women. Some of them are very well-meaning, some of them are women who buy into it. Youâve probably seen some of them on this site. Theyâre the ones who take the stock photographs of female martial artists doing (slightly awkward looking) high kicks in high heels as âYES GIRLY GIRLS CAN FIGHT TOO!â. Well, they certainly can but not in high heels. (I applaud the women who can do full extension sidekicks in high heels though! What flexibility! Much balance! Incredible skill! A woman who can do a high kick in high heels is a badass. Itâs a testament to their mastery of their body though, not high heel combat viability.)
High heels tip the body forward, putting all the weight on the balls of the feet. If youâve ever walked around in high heels, then you know finding your balance can be tricky (especially on slick surfaces) and running is mostly out. (You can, itâs just awkward.) The original design for high heels was 14th/15th riding boots when they were a menâs fashion choice. They were never designed for walking on land.
My personal problem with the emphasis on high heels and womenâs fashion for female combat oriented characters is the emphasis on visual beauty over practicality and professionalism or any respect for the problems created by reality whatsoever
When it comes to clothing, how you dress your character does actually matter. If a creator or artist approaches their female character with the belief that women donât fight anyway, so further sexualization of them through their clothing doesnât matter in the grand scheme of things then they are actively contributing to the dehumanization of that character and upholding that ideal that women fighting at all (much less on an even plane with men) is a fantasy. (The reality is women all over the world do fight, do take on dangerous jobs in various shapes, sizes, and personalities.)
Why? Because it prioritizes emphasis on their appearance to the outside observer over the concerns of the reality they are facing. Whoever put together their outfit was thinking primarily about how theyâd be perceived not on practical choices of what theyâd choose to wear for traipsing through a sewer. When I think about sewers, peep toe shoes, skinny jeans, and spaghetti straps donât exactly come to mind first as preferred spelunking wear. Galoshes, raincoats, and pants that repel moisture, yeah. Clothes from the $5 bin I donât mind throwing out after, sure. My Coach bag and (if I owned any) $400 Jimmy Choos? Hell, no.
A character doesnât become more badass by ignoring the physical constraints and dangers of the world around them. They just look more stupid. The required level of suspension of disbelief is higher for these characters than their male counterparts.
Now, male artists do this for male characters too. The problem is, of course, that you can actually make a case for fighting in biker boots, a loose leather jacket, and jeans. Thatâs actually practical street combat wear. Leather jackets work as makeshift armor, they can absorb a fair amount of impact. Biker boots are thick, made of leather, protect the shins, and theyâre designed to take impact. They armor the foot. Loose menâs jeans are practical, provide freedom of movement, and theyâre durable against friction burns. They survive longer and theyâre thicker than other kinds of pants. So, when Steven Stallone turns to the camera in a goofy 80s action movie and says âYou donât need to get fancy, lady.â Heâs actually right. You donât.
However, if you have Black Widow do the same in a catsuit, high heels, or even just skinny jeans, a tight fitting leather jacket, a very nice red satin shirt that exposes her breasts, and heavy makeup, itâs not exactly comparable in impact. (One of the nice things about The Winter Soldier was how practically they had her dressed when wearing civvies.) 1) Because she already is dressed fancy and 2) her clothing isnât any more practical to the situation than the person sheâs bitching out.
Plenty of Urban Fantasy protagonists, super heroines, and movie characters do this. Iâm not picking on Black Widow, but sheâs getting passed around a lot. Buffy did this all the time and itâs part of why I couldnât take her seriously (especially in the early seasons). Going down into the sewers in a satin pink spaghetti strap, a mini skirt, and matching sandals. Why? Because she likes sacrificing $100 to $200 in clothing every day. Single parent home, pushing minimal income, constantly complaining about her allowance, while burning a metric shit ton on clothing every single week. How is she affording that? The answer is sheâs not. The clothing just pops out of the snow, like daisies. The same can be said of the female protagonists on The Vampire Diaries.
On the other hand, I give Charmed a pass because they constantly acknowledge how hard demon fighting is on their clothing. They try to fix their clothes with magic, they have to come up with money to repair the manor, they have to buy new clothes, they think about trading in their old styles for more practical ones and decide against it. The daily rigor, the stress on their wallets, the general mundane realities of every day life are expressed in the choices and habits the characters make and maintain. If they have time before facing a given crisis, youâll even see them go run to change. Their clothing isnât practical, but the show at least acknowledges that and uses it to humanize their struggles with being women and demon hunting witches.
The big problem with style and fashion is they help contribute to the idea that women primarily exist in fiction (and in real life) to be looked at. Theyâre decorative first, even when theyâre dangerous. If you remove that aspect, men and women will in fact complain.
Yes, both of them.
Women are presented with a cultural idealization of beauty day in and day out, the stereotypes weâre presented with become a part of what we expect to see and may even idealize in ourselves. Recognition of beauty, being admired, is presented as a goal all women (whether or not they can even achieve the standard)Â should aspire to. Not appearing beautiful is presented as bad by media, unworthy, unable to be loved. Conform to be worthy. For many people, they want both. To fit the cultural ideal of female sexualization while simultaneously rejecting it. Itâs wish fulfillment and thereâs no shame in it, media has told you youâre entire life that this is what you should want to be.
It doesnât exist, but youâll see plenty of people try to make it so anyway like the girls I knew in gym whoâd cake on makeup before going out to play basketball or run the mile.
Looks first.
To challenge the stereotypes, you have to recognize them and that may require changing how you see women in media. Itâs insidious and, more importantly, not necessarily evil. Thereâs nothing wrong with wanting to be wanted, to be beautiful, to be recognized. But how a character looks and what they wear should always, always come second to what they need to get their job done.
I try to beat this by thinking about the situation first, instead of character. I construct a character to deal with a situation. With this set up, practicality usually prevails.
I challenge you followers. When you think of a powerful woman, or a dangerous female, what do you think of first?
-Michi
Super comprehensive and informative (if lengthy) post regarding fighting in high heels. A MUST-READ FOR EVERYONE!
Let me just quote the most important paragraph of it (that relates to female hero costume design in general, not just the footwear):
âA character doesnât become more badass by ignoring the physical constraints and dangers of the world around them. They just look more stupid. The required level of suspension of disbelief is higher for these characters than their male counterparts.â
Finally someone found perfect words for the point that is my answer to all of Female Armor Rhetoric Bingo. Thank you so much, howtofightwrite!
~Ozzie
What time is it? Time to remind everyone of all the arguments why FIGHTING in high heels is a terrible idea!
~Ozzie
The video as a whole is a really great introduction to character posing in animation and why Tracerâs âlookatmubuttâ pose needed to be replaced. But the last bit is the most important part for BABD, as Dan brings up how sexualization tends to compromise everything else that is established about a female character instead of being properly used as a character-building tool. Not surprisingly, two heroines we talked about a lot on BABD are brought up as examples.
Regarding Tracerâs pose redo, while I agree the new one is technically more in-character and dynamic, I still think Blizzard did a half-hearted fix job by choosing posing thatâs still gratuitously sexualized for the âimprovedâ look.
And for the record, Tracerâs design devoting way too much attention to her butt(crack)Â has been a problem since Overwatchâs beginnings. If Blizzard has genuine interest in objectifying her less, they could start with making her pants not ride up her colon.Â
~Ozzie
h/t: @greybeck
Since Overwatchâs release date is pending, Iâve been seeing a lot of people getting excited about itâs diversity (particularly in comparison to itâs primary rival) and Tracer as a character – and Iâve noticed something.
Pretty much every favorite Tracer moment tends to frame her from the shoulders up for two reasons. Â The first is that her facial expressions are magic (hopefully Disney is taking notes) and secondly because most of the top half of her costume seems designed with her personality and role in mind.
The rest of it seems designed with the intent to make sure that thereâs no confusion here, the plucky, fun female character is also definitely slim and ha great legs and butt.Â
Clearly her appeal is enough they really didnât need to do that.
– wincenworks
The video as a whole is a really great introduction to character posing in animation and why Tracerâs âlookatmubuttâ pose needed to be replaced. But the last bit is the most important part for BABD, as Dan brings up how sexualization tends to compromise everything else that is established about a female character instead of being properly used as a character-building tool. Not surprisingly, two heroines we talked about a lot on BABD are brought up as examples.
Regarding Tracerâs pose redo, while I agree the new one is technically more in-character and dynamic, I still think Blizzard did a half-hearted fix job by choosing posing thatâs still gratuitously sexualized for the âimprovedâ look.
And for the record, Tracerâs design devoting way too much attention to her butt(crack)Â has been a problem since Overwatchâs beginnings. If Blizzard has genuine interest in objectifying her less, they could start with making her pants not ride up her colon.Â
~Ozzie
h/t: @greybeck
Since Overwatchâs release date is pending, Iâve been seeing a lot of people getting excited about itâs diversity (particularly in comparison to itâs primary rival) and Tracer as a character – and Iâve noticed something.
Pretty much every favorite Tracer moment tends to frame her from the shoulders up for two reasons. Â The first is that her facial expressions are magic (hopefully Disney is taking notes) and secondly because most of the top half of her costume seems designed with her personality and role in mind.
The rest of it seems designed with the intent to make sure that thereâs no confusion here, the plucky, fun female character is also definitely slim and ha great legs and butt.Â
Clearly her appeal is enough they really didnât need to do that.
– wincenworks
Idea for artists designing female superhero costumes.
Start with a sports bra. Any sports bra.Â
If your design cannot incorporate that underneath or including it, youâre probably fucking it up.
@bikiniarmorbattledamage Iâm sure someone else probably tagged you in this already but hey. This sounds like a really good piece of advice !
Amazingly, no-one before sent this our way. Thank you for doing this, because this is an AMAZING rule of thumb!
Love how simple and on-point it is! PREACH
~Ozzie
Idea for artists designing female superhero costumes.
Start with a sports bra. Any sports bra.Â
If your design cannot incorporate that underneath or including it, youâre probably fucking it up.
@bikiniarmorbattledamage Iâm sure someone else probably tagged you in this already but hey. This sounds like a really good piece of advice !
Amazingly, no-one before sent this our way. Thank you for doing this, because this is an AMAZING rule of thumb!
Love how simple and on-point it is! PREACH
~Ozzie