Guy that (supposedly) worked on a mobile game said they’d first tried not to use sex appeal. Tried some inoffensive DLC & got lukewarm response. Then they caved & tried selling things that “sexed up” the game. Supposedly they gained more male gamers (& their revenue) than they lost from girls leaving. QUESTION: Are there good visual examples of warrior women that are genuinely sexy (to teens into girls, theoretically) without being demeaning? Can we have “sex appeal” revenue w.out offensiveness?

The problem with crediting “sexing up” the game with increase in sales is that it assumes sex was the only avenue of generating interest – a theory that doesn’t hold up when you consider that some of the biggest selling game types (flight simulators, first person shooters, side scrolling platformers) often don’t include any sexual angle at all.

Back in 1970, Marvel comics experimented with putting Conan the Barbarian in comic format.  After the first few issues sales began to decline and the writer, Roy Thomas (who loved Conan), went to Stan Lee (who was indifferent to Conan) for advice.  Stan looked at the covers and the sales, and told them to shift away from putting animals on the covers and instead use more humanoid monsters.

They followed Stan’s advice: Sales went up again and the comic continued for twenty-three years.  However you don’t see many people campaigning that “Humanoid monsters sell!“ then trying to fit them into all marketing regardless of product or target market.  (And sex obviously wasn’t selling Conan, they had bikini damsels after all)

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Conan the Barbarian, in his loincloth and flexing his muscles, looked like a poor man’s Tarzan (which had been the popular comic fifty years ago) when battling animals – but when battling humanoid monsters he looked like a more mature fantasy narrative that was new and unique in comics at the time.

The only narrative that sexing/male gazing up a game really provides is “This game is made to cater to the fantasy of straight men.” So if swapping out your old narrative for this one increases interest and sales dramatically – then your old narrative must have been pretty boring.

There have been numerous warrior women in video games over the years.  Most of them have been under marketed, relegated to sidelines, ignored or otherwise mishandled due to general fear that they weren’t meeting the “make straight men feel important” factor that modern markets cling to as their sacred idol.

It’s actually not that difficult for creators to make female characters who are sexually attractive without going into bikini armor or other exploitative tropes.  I mean, if you give a woman agency, ability and personality – odds are good people will find it sexy.

Essentially the problem is that the gaming industry, and many other mediums, are reluctant to take the risk of incorporating different perspectives and different priorities over “games to reassure straight white men that they’re straight and awesome”.

– wincenworks

To all my female gamer followers

kate-wisehart:

wrathomatic:

What, in a main protagonist, would make you feel represented positively and empowered in a video game?

I’m making a video game and being a young man I want to be as accurate to women as I can, as the leading hero is a woman

The game offers a lot of choices when it comes to things like opinions and sexualities, but what sort of subtleties do you ladies find appropriate and positive in a game that makes you feel properly represented?

I’d love some feedback in the ask box. Thank you! 🙂

Realistic armor, less jiggle-physics, and a backstory that doesn’t involve sexual assault is my holy trio of game fantasies.

I second the holy trio.

Anyway, followers, signal boost! Some more ideas?

~Ozzie

phantom-stalker:

I made this after visiting a forum the other day 

I dedicate this video to all straight males 

I love how even in this small sample of rhetoric comments you can see brodudes co-operating by providing completely different narratives with the same goal.

  • The women in League of Legends are totally not sexualized! At all!
  • Women are naturally sexualized so they should be depicted as sexy all the time!

Reminder: This is the same demographic that are currently rioting because they claim games journalism doesn’t have enough integrity.

– wincenworks


edit: Unfortunately, the video doesn’t exist anymore. It was a montage of “League of Legends is not sexist!” fan comments screenshots juxtaposed with boob-heavy promotional

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artwork, all set to can-can music.