eternalgaylord:

so sexism and objectification aside, is there a drastic difference between the protection offered by, say, leather or normal cloth versus bare skin? obviously there are significant advantages in the case of armour, but i was wondering more about spandex-wearing superheroes. or is the spandex usually abnormally tough?

Bringing this back just to highlight that while spandex has never been a particularly practical material for a battle uniform, there’s a massive disparity between how it was used in designs for male and female character concepts in the superhero genre… and that continues to this day (ht: @thespookiestace)

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes. Spandex and regular clothes can have some protective qualities but that’s not why superheroes wear spandex.

The thing with protection and in order to properly estimate how well something will protect you – you need to know what you’re protecting against.  Depending on the hazard and the situation, a little cloth can work wonders.

Re-enforced clothes like Battle Dress Uniforms can protect against environmental hazards (such as thorn bushes, gravel, etc), light shrapnel, chemical agents, detection via infrared, low heat flames, etc. They won’t save your life immediately but they’ll protect against pain, shock and infections.  But you’ll still want to wear armor over the top if you expect to get shot at.

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Leather can be really protective (hence why it’s considered standard motorcycle gear) and also has potential for lots of re-enforcing.  They’re expensive, but you can get bullet armor that will protect against the vast majority of pistols – and still look like an old school biker jacket.

Spandex and similar products are not particularly tough against say bullets, knives or fire.  In fact the main thing it’s advertised as protection against is sunlight. Spandex-like wet suits are often made to protect against chill, wind, sun even being weighed down by water.

The reason that superheroes wear them is not for any protective quality but rather that they allowed artists to showcase the super heroes as having larger than life physiques and being demonstrations of perfection.  While his physique doesn’t seem unattainable now, Superman started in 1938, and this is what a contestants in the 1953 Mr Universe competition looked like:

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(If he looks familiar, it’s because he’s Sean Connery)

Basically the problem with the double standard is that superheroine designs are less about looking like the perfect powerhouse and more about looking like the perfect sex toy.  To the extent it’s hard to take them seriously and people spend no small amount of time pondering the hazardous of the outfits.

There’s also the matter that creators are often quite comfortable loading up heroes like Batman with so much armor that he needs servos to run and jump around, but heroines like Batgirl are always limited to what can show off her silhouette and show the exact shape of her boobs.

Designs don’t necessarily need to be protective, particularly if you’re selling a larger than life power fantasy – but it shouldn’t look like it’s a massive liability purely for the titillation of the people beyond the fourth wall (unless you’re doing some sort of erotic parody where that’s the point).

– wincenworks

Whywhywhywhywhy. Not only is scarlet witch the only half naked one, she’s also the smallest one in the shot, on the very right (most people are more likely to look to the left first rather than the right, statistically) and has a very unamused-looking expression

If only this was an anomoly and things like Captain Peggy Carter the standard… sadly…

– wincenworks

I find it very worrying that while even Entertainment Weekly could appreciate the importance of Wonder Woman having a face and a cool pose, Warner Brothers apparently decided the only thing we need to know is that Gal’s outfit is basically painted on.

Honestly, DC Comics got slammed for this when it happened originally, but apparently Frank Miller’s vision is all Warner Bros care about:

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The trailer is not really any better for depicting her or the other amazons either, basically all the issues from Justice League Action but with real actors:

Sure would have been nice if the costume and promotions departments for our first super heroine live action movie could have had some direction other than:

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Rather than say… I dunno… look at the intro to the 2009 animated movie.

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– wincenworks

This is a cartoon for kids, why am I feeling like the costume design and story boarding was done by Frank Miller or maybe Frank Cho?  WTF DC Warner Brothers!? (Video here) Also…

I can actually imagine Creepy Marketing Guy just red-lining the boobs onto this costume and the artist just copying their exact shape and location out of contempt.  That’s the only explanation I’m going to accept for this particular boobplate.

Suddenly it’s very clear why the art direction and DC Comics didn’t immediately spot the obvious problems with the Wonder Woman cover having convoluted design in order to facilitate random panty flash.

– wincenworks

This is a cartoon for kids, why am I feeling like the costume design and story boarding was done by Frank Miller or maybe Frank Cho?  WTF DC Warner Brothers!? (Video here) Also…

I can actually imagine Creepy Marketing Guy just red-lining the boobs onto this costume and the artist just copying their exact shape and location out of contempt.  That’s the only explanation I’m going to accept for this particular boobplate.

Suddenly it’s very clear why the art direction and DC Comics didn’t immediately spot the obvious problems with the Wonder Woman cover having convoluted design in order to facilitate random panty flash.

– wincenworks