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antivertigo:

twomillionbees:

twomillionbees:

petition to call “fanservice” something else bc i am in fact a fan and that type of thing does me a DISservice

proposed alternate term: “perv pandering”

pros:

  • makes clear who it is for
  • frames it in a negative light
  • gross dudebro fans like to accuse any attempt at diversity or representation as being “pandering” so it’s fun to point out how they’re being pandered to
  • alliteration

@bikiniarmorbattledamage

Agreed 100% I was always hesitant to use the term “fanservice” for what is clearly just perv pandering. Because as I learned it first, it meant exactly what the name implies – rewarding fans with a creator’s nod; pleasing the audience.  

References to continuity, cameos of beloved characters, canonizing popular ships – those are examples of fan service.
Gratuitous sexualization of female characters isn’t really that. That’s just erotica, plain and simple. Let’s not imply that wanking to a skimpily-clad fictional heroine requires being her fan first. 

~Ozzie 

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An excerpt from the Dudebro Dictionary

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

Creative Freedom – reason gratuitous female boobs and butts must be preserved at all costs in That Thing That I Like

Censorship – reason gratuitous female boobs and butts are not featured in That Thing That I Like 

~Ozzie

Dudebro Dictionary now supplemented by @yanavaseva [x] and @hardboiled-w [x]!

Self–Censorship – entertaining the idea of adding gratuitous female boobs and butts but ultimately deciding not to because you just got a better idea. 

Submitting to Harassment – Starting to add gratuitous female boobs and butts but, upon reading arguments against it in discussion topics on forums and message boards, deciding that you see where they’re coming from and you hadn’t thought of that before, so you decide to tone the boobs down a notch with a minor edit that in some cases is only noticeable in side by side comparisons. 

Artist’s Wishes – This tiddy must be preserved in all its glory despite the fact that the artist wished to remove the tiddy. 

~Ozzie 

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Anonymous:

Sometimes when I’m watching a review for a Marvel movie and they start talking about how hot the female lead is, I briefly think “Seriously? Gross pigs”. But then I take a look at my desktop and see screen caps of almost all of Chris Evans’ ass shots from his Marvel movies, and I realize I have absolutely no right to judge. I am no better. That’s not to say nobody else has the right to judge, because they do. Just putting it into perspective so both sides can understand one another better.

bikiniarmorbattledamage:

kissingcullens:

kehinki:

Not really. Who even cares about objectifying Steve Rogers when he gets 3 of his very own movies and there isn’t even a SINGLE movie for ANY female character. Who cares about women on tumblr objectifying him prettyyyy much harmlessly when entertainment shows/sites seen by millions gush about Steve’s character development or Chris’ acting, while the only thing they say about the SOLE woman is her new hair/her weight loss or gain/how hot she looked. Sometimes, women are ONLY put in movies to be the token “eye candy”, (regardless of whether or not she’s underage) and this happens a lot. Look at the massive franchise that is Transformers.

It’s not the same thing… Men objectify women and it leads to real life violence against women—fuelled by already rampant misogyny. Women objectify men and it leads to gifsets of Chris Evans’ ass.

Yuppppp
And no one respects sexy men less for being “objectified” if you can even apply the term the same way to a guy- if anything, being objectified is glorifying for men.  

What’s that thing Joe Mangianello said about how he doesn’t feel like men can be objectified? Cuz women are viewed as sex objects, but men are viewed as power objects?

A guy who takes off his shirt and shows off his buff bod in a movie has power, he’s displaying his value and attractiveness

I mean, the culture isn’t NEARLY the same; I’ve been thinking lately about how no matter how much we “objectify” men, it’s always an empowering thing for the man.  

He’s sexy: it’s an achievement.

 And a lot of our attraction is also about fawning over the man’s personality, his expressions, the nuances of the character he plays- cute jokes about Doritoes…. 

I can go from posting ten close-ups of Chris Evan’s ass (accompanied by praise and self-deprecating jokes)
To a picture of him in a sweater-vest, looking pensive and talking about his love of golden retrievers in the same ten minutes (with commentary about what a darling angel he is)

None of it is demeaning or objectifying in remotely the way female objectification is, and your point about Chris Evans starring in three Cap solo movies is really right on….
…while women can barely scrape past the damn Bechdel test half the time, and half the time are reduced to T&A and get assaulted or fridged or show up in their undies for no reason…

Some wise words about gendered double standards and false equivalence between objectifying male and female characters.

~Ozzie

Following yesterday’s post about the far-from-perfect female costume designs in MCU, throwing back this week some nice analysis of the asker’s blatant false equivalence in regards to objectifying female vs male movie superheroes. 

Keep in mind that this post is at least five years old and since then we had barely two mainstream superhero movies with female leads released, one of which was about Wonder Woman in an unmistakably sexualized costume. 

~Ozzie 

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bikiniarmorbattledamage:

witchyjoshy:

straight boys: Silly feminists, it’s okay for women to be depicted with little to no armor. Look at Conan, he’s totally the same thing!

straight boys: *playing FF12* Vaan, put on a damn shirt you’RE MAKING ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE 

straight boys: *reacting to new male protagonist’s skimpy armor* Squeenix pls stop 

straight boys: But yeah, Conan. Totally the same thing. And you don’t see us complaining!

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Perfect summary of this "controversy".

~Ozzie

Since the upcoming reboot of another legendary Final Fantasy game caused a “debate” over the (very much alleged) reduction of female character’s breast size, let’s remember that dudebros perpetuating this new fake controversy are obviously the same people who complain about male characters in the franchise being too sexy for their homophobic liking. 

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~Ozzie 

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big-wired:

transgladstone:

things that don’t break white male gamer’s immersion: dragons, magic, made up metals, impossibly large weapons, eating 50 potatoes while in combat, riding a horse up a 90 degree cliff

things that break white male gamer’s immersion: realistic armor for women, black people

Also, transgender people.

This week’s throwback: a post we originally reblogged from ever-invaluable @medievalpoc​. Bringing it back as it’s basically text version of that Kasia Babis comic we featured last weekend. 

This time reblogging from @big-wired, who was smart enough to convert it from garbage chat post format into a text one AND made a valuable addition to the list of things that (cis) white males can’t handle in games (and other media) because ‘historical accuracy’… in largely fantasy worlds.

Though we would be here all day if we were to list ALL the common and perfectly normal (often historically accurate) kinds of things and people that “ruin” the immersion of a Status Quo Warrior gamer dudebro. 

~Ozzie 

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Tidy Up Tuesday #94

Back to addressing some stuff that accumulated over the last month! 

As always, please don’t submit (or tag us under) content that isn’t credited and can’t be easily traced back to its author(s). 

It should REALLY not need to be said at this point, but bikini armor or otherwise sexualized female outfits are the absolute opposite of a costume that enhances the wearer’s mobility. That’s the kind of nonsense that gave us the Female Armor Rhetoric Bingo in the first place.

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If that was actually the case, you’d think there would be more museums showcasing metal speedo armor.

Check out this sweet redesign of the mushroom lady who previously had a serious case of suspicious dimorphism (which we posted before) by @deliciousboondollarsandwich!

Things we posted before: 

~Ozzie, -wincenworks, & -Icy

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Gamers are blaming socialism for making the women in Mortal Kombat ‘ugly’

Gamers are blaming socialism for making the women in Mortal Kombat ‘ugly’

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(Article does link to some tweets that, unsurprisingly, contain particularly sexist, racist and islamaphobic statements)

That’s right bros, the Red Menace is back and it’s already taken your fighting fucktoys from Mortal Kombat.  Though if you’re wondering how, I’ll save you time – none of them have any theory on the how or why beyond buzzword salad.

If there was ever a moment that highlighted just how much a particular demographic loves to wallow in ignorance and choose literally anything they’ve been led to believe is good for others must be to blame for them not be pandered to literally 24/7.

As the article states itself:

Companies making or localizing games in a way that does not cater to the way a particular (insensitive, misogynistic) audience demands are not engaging in censorship; they are simply marketing to wider audiences. Ironically, the same people who claim to be fighting for free speech in video games are now trying to punish NetherRealm Studios for making a game they’ve deemed offensive. But what they consider “offensive” is reducing a character’s visible cleavage and slightly changing her facial structure.

Ironically, as the article points out – it seems that Netherrealm did make some backsliding in terms of their (minimal) LGBT+ representation.

But to finish on a positive note, finally Sheeva actually looks like a demon warrior who could break you in half:

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– wincenworks