“Or the artists just want to draw her in skimpy armor and that’s ok? How about you just don’t look at that art, let them do what they’re doing, and appreciate the character regardless." like no offense but if you wanna draw a female wow character in bikini plate you will not run into much of a shortage, is expressing annoyance with artists who cant even draw one woman in full armor when that’s clearly how she designed really that much of an infringement upon artistic freedom & integrity or whatever. is it really worth this level of defensiveness
Words of truth regarding the tired old ”creative freedom“ (a.k.a. ”leave the artists alooone!“) argument for defending bikini armors. Bolding mine.
~Ozzie
bhunivelzes replied to your link “Steam Curator: GamerGate Recommends”
“The artists from the game were heavily harassed because of the female armor in the game and were forced into self-censoring.” …self-censoring…
thats the kind of language these people use. …. .
Wow, no kidding!
It appears that GamerGate made Thierry “Save the Boobplate” Van Gyseghem into a martyr for their ‘noble’ cause.
If that’s not hilarious, then what is?
~Ozzie
Professional artist expected to do his job… oh the humanity!
– wincenworks
Why Wonder Woman Deserves More
Help me out here guys….
Okay, I may not be a huge comic book buff (yet still a huge fan!), but I’m willing to learn if there’s something I’m missing. I’ve always loved the idea of Wonder Woman – a powerful female warrioress from Ancient Greece/Amazonian culture (iirc), a Xena-like character who fights for virtue, honor, truth, all those good things. She plays with the big boys, and not only keeps up, but shows them how it’s done.
If that’s so, then…whywhyWHY is she most always shown in a skintight, strapless, pantsless, thong/swimming suit/flimsy piece of spandex???? I know she’s pretty indestructible, but do you know how HARD it is to fight in a leather corset, where there’s no straps to keep that gigantic chest in place?
It makes me VERY sad that such a famous, prominent figure of feminine power is mostly seen as a sex icon, mostly featured in sexy/escher-esque poses, wearing “clothing” that looks like it was sprayed on or hanging on with a wing and a prayer (and maybe ample amounts of superglue?), or any variation thereof? I say ‘mostly’, because I have seen some versions where she’s more practical, with pants, real armor, heck I’ll even settle for the Greek/Xena-style skirt in some versions. Bravo to those people for giving our poor warrioress some semblance of dignity.
If I understand correctly, like in the Xena universe, that is the ‘style’ of the era, the leather skirt with the bodice and shoulder armor, reminiscent of Romans and Greeks from Sparta, etc. Well okay then, give WW an outfit that actually looks/works like real armor from that period, instead of the spandex thong/corset she’s most often depicted in. Also, iirc, maybe she doesn’t wear full armor because that’s the ‘Amazon way’, IE: she’s so OP that she doesn’t need full covering. But give her SOMETHING that isn’t so obviously designed to sell sex first, and practicality last!
Spandex may be all the rage for comic books (and it’s probably easier to draw), but I’d like to direct your attention to some of these wonderful blogs for many, many more reasons why our beloved Wonder Woman deserves more than a minimal-coverage, maximum-bust corset (and why practical armor can be even more BA and gorgeous):
- http://eschergirls.tumblr.com/
- http://repair-her-armor.tumblr.com/
- http://womenfighters.tumblr.com/
- http://bikiniarmorbattledamage.tumblr.com/
- http://thehawkeyeinitiative.com/
Unless there is a practical, logical reason why WW is nearly always shown in the aforementioned ILLOGICAL ways, let’s face it: Sex sells, and too many people are buying. And that is no excuse, because women like myself want to see our gender treated with more dignity, respect, and understanding than what is given. You know what, I’ll bet Superman is chivalrous. And so is Wonder Woman.
I challenge any WW artist to design her with something more akin to Lady Sif (from the movie version), instead of just going with the flow.
TL;DR – Wonder Woman is too freaking amazing to be treated as a sex icon. She deserves a whole heck of a lot more from us, her fans. She deserves something befitting who she is, and what she represents.
My post isn’t intended to insult anyone, I know we all have different ideas and viewpoints. I’m just expressing my own views and frustrations with society :/
/end rant (btw, I have no problem with the comic book world; check my blogs, I’m a huge nerd! But I do have a problem with how prevalent the sex industry is, especially in my fandoms! Move over boys, girls are nerds too!)
Bolding mine. I share this sentiment.
We had posts regarding both on how questionable Wonder Woman’s strapless cleavage cut is and the rare (official!) alternative designs that are more practical and/or pay tribute to ancient Greek aesthetic, unlike the iconic outfit everyone remembers most.
~Ozzie
I really find it baffling that after sixty-four years and countless re-boots, re-designs, re-imaginings for different mediums, etc. DC Comics keeps coming back to basically her original costume but with no skirt:
Epic creativity.
– wincenworks
how to “pander to sjws / feminists”: in depth characters and storytelling, non objectified female characters, characters of all manners of races, identities and backgrounds
how to pander to gamer boys: make titty wobble
Wow no wonder they don’t want to make games more accessible to women, they’d have to reveal their lack of actual talent.
What a nice response to the “sex sells” and “creative freedom” rhetoric which we’re well too familiar with.
~Ozzie
The saddest part about this is – the games industry is full of talented people and they frequently have to throw away their best work because someone who is overpaid believes in a magic formula.
Then they end up promoting the wrong people and we end up with this guy.
– wincenworks